tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post8994348766413261366..comments2024-03-06T13:50:29.718+05:30Comments on E's flat, ah's flat too: Why can't we all just listen to Jug Suraiya?Rahul Siddharthanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04809667965184094636noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post-82020166163159839952009-12-24T22:03:26.475+05:302009-12-24T22:03:26.475+05:30Rahul Basu,
Sorry the ToI has a richly deserved r...Rahul Basu,<br /><br />Sorry the ToI has a richly deserved reputation for being the Slimes. The group as a whole has long since abandoned any pretense of professionalism and journalistic integrity. Suraiya is not alone in his support of quackery, Swami Aiyar their economics editor has penned edits in favour of Creationism and Climate Science Denial. There is only one newspaper in India that does serious science reporting - The Hindu - and it stands far above and beyond any English newspaper in the world wrt its science reporting. It is not that The Hindu is staffed by geniuses or some such thing, its editors and correspondents simply work closely with scientists when required. Other publications that generally do well wrt science are India Today and Outlook. Out here in the US science reporting has for long been on the skids. Business publications like Forbes and the Wall Street Journal host quacks by the dozen and The Washington Post continues to make an ass of itself by featuring edits on climate science by such scholars of renown such as Sarah Palin and George WillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post-9385893066364320182009-12-10T18:30:12.459+05:302009-12-10T18:30:12.459+05:30GS - Dyson is not a climate scientist either. (No...GS - Dyson is not a climate scientist either. (Nor am I.) He is one of the greats of physics, but seems to share the arrogance of some physicists that they can understand any problem. He is right that it is extremely hard to model the climate of the earth, but the results have been quite respectable. But the major concern is from observations, not modelling, and those are hard to argue with -- they are carefully done, from many different sources, and all seem to tell the same story.Rahul Siddharthanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04809667965184094636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post-84380705348254361262009-12-10T17:44:47.988+05:302009-12-10T17:44:47.988+05:30RS,
Do you have any comments on Freeman Dyson'...RS,<br />Do you have any comments on Freeman Dyson's views on global warming? Thanks.gaddeswaruphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16509075029154476375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post-52252099154383787602009-12-10T13:17:09.805+05:302009-12-10T13:17:09.805+05:30Sunil, RahulB: about TOI's science reportage, ...Sunil, RahulB: about TOI's science reportage, I suppose TOI is large; it contains multitudes.<br /><br />Anonymous: thanks for the link. Of course people will believe the fringe, though. Conspiracy theories are so much more exciting, especially when their message is "don't worry".<br /><br />km - good one.Rahul Siddharthanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04809667965184094636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post-75787940250117989672009-12-10T11:42:15.770+05:302009-12-10T11:42:15.770+05:30Ah! Contrarian views....you mean flat earth theory...Ah! Contrarian views....you mean flat earth theory, creationism instead of evolution, homoeopathy, perpetual motion machines etc....Rahul Basuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07751088048215388592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post-15793974754460242102009-12-10T00:15:19.034+05:302009-12-10T00:15:19.034+05:30Apparently, his blog will take contrarian views on...Apparently, his blog will take contrarian views on topical and "timeless" issues.<br /><br />Can't wait to read his refutation of income taxes and death.<br /><br />//OTOH, there's a commenter on ToI who claims he used to watch Ram Leela wearing a sweater but not anymore and seriously offers that as proof of climate change. Sigh.kmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040339235134145847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post-55039013112493302652009-12-09T13:44:07.547+05:302009-12-09T13:44:07.547+05:30Ah...Thanks for this post! I was waiting for some ...Ah...Thanks for this post! I was waiting for some sensible person to refute Suraiya's uninstructed article.<br /><br />Daniel, from Cosmic Variance has a nice article on the matter:<br /><br />"Since this issue has profound consequences for centuries to come, I would claim it is the responsibility of every citizen of the world to educate themselves on the topic. It seems to me that each of us has three straightforward choices:<br />1. go back to school, get a PhD in climate sciences, and form one’s own informed opinions about what’s going on.<br />2. trust the experts.<br />3. trust the fringe.<br /><br />Note that the fringe consists almost entirely of non-experts. And believing the fringe requires you to be convinced there’s a vast scientific conspiracy, with the willing collusion of thousands of experts around the world."<br /><br />Link: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/cosmicvariance/2009/12/08/lukewarm/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post-1704520717825941322009-12-09T13:33:33.006+05:302009-12-09T13:33:33.006+05:30Actually Sunil, not so. TOI's science coverage...Actually Sunil, not so. TOI's science coverage has been generally quite good and fairly mainstream (not too much of Quantum Healing and the like). But I guess Jug Suraiya's article which I saw this morning falls under the humour column, and should therefore be treated as such :)Rahul Basuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07751088048215388592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3112258799568696095.post-1231515247914853572009-12-09T12:49:39.657+05:302009-12-09T12:49:39.657+05:30Sigh. He's probably perfect for the general TO...Sigh. He's probably perfect for the general TOI audience, who will lap it up. Just sad.Sunil D'Montehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11930243702764871949noreply@blogger.com